Si Thompson Junior Member
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Posted - 2021/06/18 : 12:04:57
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
I thought it showed he can't handle Fury's mind games. He's already a beaten man imo, and he is trying to keep Fury out of his head, but he can't.
Fury needs to still be very aware of that right hand again, and he won't be able to batter him from the bell like last time. I can't see Fury developing "1 punch KO power" tbh, he's just not built for it, and tbh if he goes to KO Wilder early, I see him getting sparked out.
This fight shouldn't be happening, and Wilder is a PoS tbh for forcing it after being beaten so badly last time.
Same game plan as last time is the key to victory. Educated pressure and break Wilder down. Lean on him in clinches and not let Wilder get set to throw that right hand.
Yeah. Should've been AJ-Fury, but I'm still looking forward to both fights.
Posted - 2021/09/25 : 22:49:38
Usyk beats AJ with ease.
Was a decent fight but Usyks class showed through in the end. Unlike Joshuas loss to Ruiz when there were mitigating circumstances and a straightforward win in the rematch - I dont see any way back for him this time. Usyk is all wrong for him.
Its a shame as we can basically forget Fury v Joshua now but Usyk v Fury should be a good one.
Posted - 2021/09/26 : 12:14:59
Yes that was some statement from Usyk last night - he has well and truly arrived on the heavyweight scene after a couple of questionable performances before this. We all knew he was great but he could go on to become an all time great if he unifies. Will be tough against Fury though assuming he beats Wilder again and they look for a unification.
As for Joshua, I actually thought he was ok last night but it just seemed that Usyk had an answer for absolutely everything. Would he have fared better if he came in heavier to use the size advantage more? Probably not but hopefully we find out in the rematch.
He could do worse than change his trainer. McCracken has obviously worked at the top level for a long time but sometimes a fresh pair of eyes and a new plan can freshen a fighter up.
Its really up to AJ, does he want to be loyal, scrap around the fringes for a couple of years then get his arse handed to him by whoever emerges dominant from a Fury v Usyk saga or does he want to seek out improvement and try something knew?
Si Thompson Junior Member
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131 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/09/28 : 12:01:41
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
I was watching Calzaghe fights last night, jeez, i'd forgotten how fast he was. Those punches people called slaps were anything but.
Joe one of my favourite fighters of all time, just cos of his dogged workrate and hand speed.
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This was 2003. Calzaghe started cuffing his shots later on in his career. He had hand troubles.
Joe was an excellent fighter, but his resume isn't great. Far too many WBO mandatory opponents, which is similar to European level opposition. He should've given Robin Reid a rematch, and moved up to Light Heavyweight sooner. Gone over to the states sooner. Frank Warren did the same as he did with Eubank. Kept him England. Plenty of guys he could've fought like Winky Wright, William Joppy, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson, Carl Froch, Jermain Taylor, Andre Ward and Chad Dawson. Even a prime Roy Jones..
Kessler win is very good, and the Hopkins win (albeit a close one). A win that's aged like fine wine when you consider what Hopkins went on to do.
Si Thompson Junior Member
United Kingdom
131 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/10/04 : 14:48:25
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
You forgot the Lacy fight too, Joe's resume is pretty much what was put in front of him.
I wish the Roy Jones fight had happened, and Joe was capable of winning it too, that will forever plague him.
I wanna meet Joe, seems a top bloke. Collins dodged him for sure.
Lacy was a hype job. Calzaghe wouldn't beat a prime Roy Jones. He was good, but prime Jones was special.
It would have been a good fight, and with Calzaghe's heart, and speed, it would have not been a walk in the park , like everyone seems to think.
But Lacys reputation wasn't hype, thats BS. He had a decent Amateur career and was moving through people quickly as a pro. He had a big punch too. He was expected to walk through Joe. He got schooled by a superior boxer.
It's not BS at all. If you look at the opponents Lacy had fought up to Joe Calzaghe. His best wins were against Syd Vanderpool, who was a C+ fighter at best, and a passed prime Robin Reid. He hadn't beaten any top guys. So whoever expected him to walk through Calzaghe purely based this off hype.
As for the amateurs. I don't recall Lacy beating anyone of note, and as we all know, the transition from amateur to pro doesn't always go well. Example: Audley Harrison, and Harrison was a gold medallist.
Si Thompson Junior Member
United Kingdom
131 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/10/07 : 12:52:38
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
Well Lacy turned out to be nothing special, but then when you watch the fight, I don't care what boxer it was, Joe totally was on another level and that level would have given anyone a fight.
But its all in the past now.
Looking at the press conference last night, Fury his normal self Wilder quiet reserved, but tbh I dont wanna call this fight, i've been saying Fury obviously after the last one, but puncher always got a chance.
I just hope I can find a stable stream lol
That's how I see it. Wilder is still so dangerous with that right hand. If he loses in similar fashion to the last fight, I'm not sure where he goes. I am actually really looking forward to this.
Undercard is decent too. Much better than the AJ-Usyk one, which was poor. Efe Ajagba vs Frank Sanchez is an interesting one. Both undefeated and both can dig.
Si Thompson Junior Member
United Kingdom
131 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/10/08 : 09:16:42
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
I am looking forward to it too, we will see if Fury's boxing brain is as good as thought to be.
Because he wont be able to bully Wilder again like he did.
I'll be lucky to find a stream tbh so I wont see the undercard.
Fury can bully him again with effective aggression, but there's a few things to consider. How is Wilder mentally after the last fight?, what weight he comes in at (as for a big guy he mostly comes in light), and has he made any improvements/adjustments under Malik Scott. If any of those are a miss, and Fury is on form, Wilder gets stopped again. Maybe even sooner.
Even though Fury has dominated both fights, It is still a fight that could go either way. That's the beauty of this matchup. I'm not even going to make a prediction, and just enjoy it.
If you need to grab any fights the next day, then 'All the best fights' is the place to go. Both Boxing and Mma.
Posted - 2021/10/09 : 13:07:46
Not been paying much attention to this one tbh. Was done and dusted after the second fight. Definitely wont be staying up or setting an alarm to watch it live.
Si Thompson Junior Member
United Kingdom
131 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/10/10 : 10:07:53
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
What a fking fight. Best boxing match i've seen in a long time.
Had everything, controvasy , drama, and pure heart.
When Wilder went down first I thought that was it. But then he drops Fury twice in the next round.
Then I thought that was it, but next round again, he eyes were clear, that man has some unreal recovery
Then he just ground down Wilder and dropped him again.
I hope thats the end of this rivalry, Wilder is a classless bum tbh.
I think they said Whyte is next for Fury, which is shit but WBC are demanding it, I want to see Usyk v Fury now, and I actually don't have a clue how to call that. I think Fury is just too big but Usyk is a boxer and a half two, but we'll have to wait for that. He got the AJ clause next. If AJ wins, has to be the following fight, AJ vs Fury.
Anyway, I am still buzzing after that fight, was awesome.
Unbelievable fight. Up there with some of the best Heavyweight fights of all time.
Wilder was classless with his comments at the end and has really shown what type of person he is. However, he showed heart. If Fury didn't smoother his work so much and took a step back, he would've been able to get more shots off following the right hand. He could've got him out of there sooner.
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Posted - 2021/06/18 : 12:04:57
