rafferty Senior Member
United Kingdom
313 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2020/09/06 : 06:31:20
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by Impulse_Response:
I'm all for ditching candy, but I'll never accept those disgusting distorted kicks.
Hard to dance to them in your fluffy boots is it ?
This is only my personal definition and highly simplified, but for me the kick the is the biggest factor that differentiates UK hardcore from gabber. Add in a gabber kick for the whole song and it's no longer UK hardcore.
No, that would make it to a mid to late 90's Happy Hardcore
Darwin and Entity are producing a lot of Uptempo lately on Brutal Kuts. Their productions are very Dutch influenced but with more of an uplifting vibe.
Actually I think it is only a matter of time till they get noticed in the Netherlands with their productions if they keep making uptempo.
Sulphurik Senior Member
United Kingdom
261 posts Joined: Jan, 2009
Posted - 2020/09/09 : 21:09:55
Bulletproof & Paul Elstak & Boogshe - We Live Forever, a Paul Elstak mix of this would be good. Not so keen when the track progresses into the uptempo style.
Audio X Advanced Member
United States
640 posts Joined: Feb, 2004
13 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/09/14 : 16:09:12
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
Also, how can anyone watch Black Clover? the main characters voice is ear-bleedingly bad. I tried 6 episodes and gave up
Watch the dub. It's way less screechy than the original Japanese.
trippnface Advanced Member
United States
659 posts Joined: Jan, 2010
Posted - 2020/09/14 : 17:14:52
quote:Originally posted by Audio X:
quote:Originally posted by Samination:
Also, how can anyone watch Black Clover? the main characters voice is ear-bleedingly bad. I tried 6 episodes and gave up
Watch the dub. It's way less screechy than the original Japanese.
my boy <3
dude, while you here, fukn love your remix of stargazer & disturbance from hyper on.
if you ever wanna make a track with some black clover dub in it. i'll be waiting ;)
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Sulphurik Senior Member
United Kingdom
261 posts Joined: Jan, 2009
Posted - 2020/09/17 : 20:00:15
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
The more I see what the Netherlands is doing with their Hardcore/Hardstyle scene, the more I realise it is the direction the UK Hardcore scene should keep taking and aspiring towards like it did at it's peak in the mid 90's.
Their whole scene is well marketed and very slick.
While the whole candy thing was very detrimental to the image of UK Hardcore in the end.. It should be left as far away as possible now. It made our scene an embarrassment in the 2000s & early 2010s.
Image and marketing is everything in music these days. With candy and anime never being taken seriously and completly mocked by most.
One reason Candy never existed in the Netherlands Hard music scenes.
Some Hardstyle Producers even seem to be making more and more tracks at faster 170 + tempos all the time. With great examples of what UK Hardcore productions can become.
There were some good examples of marketing in UK Hardcore in 2000s, which worked well for sales of some of the Bonkers albums in 2000s eg. album artwork Bonkers X, Bonkers XI, Bonkers 14 and 15?
Perhaps there could have been less of the candy artwork used such as on the Clubland Xtreme hardcore cover artwork but that was no different to other Clubland albums.
Album artwork for Dutch Hardcore does match with the style of the music, similar style of artwork for UK Hardcore wouldn't work in my opinion.
Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,214 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2020/09/22 : 17:17:36
On all the raves i've been (about 18 over the past 9 years), only a handful of ravers have been people who dressed in candy, and they just basically stay in the front and dance. rafferty always acts like these few people have steered the show...
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Icewind New Member
Canada
20 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2020/10/06 : 06:58:35
Rafferty back again with the old candy sucks, street wear is better, hardstyle is better thread. At this point, candy has been part of the scene (north american mostly) for quite some time. It isn't going away any time soon.
A real rave is where nobody gives a **** about what you wear, it's all about the music at the end of the day anyways.
warped_candykid Advanced Member
United States
3,432 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2020/10/09 : 00:11:59
well well well!
we candy kids are here to stay, and Happy Hardcore will always be the music we flock to. I don't know why you're so worried about what people are wearing...are you not dancing and supporting the DJ by being in the front and off your phone?
Also, we candy kids played a big role in spreading Happy Hardcore throughout the States. You have to remember, we only had ONE actual mixed series released over here (Happy2bHardcore), and the DJ behind the mixing threw the Hullabaloo events, which was pretty much candy kid mecca, so the candy kids dominated the genre, and other hard dance genres.
Is today's rave scene anything like that past era, absolutely not. Are today's candy kids anything like the originals? Absolutely not. In fact, I find it a shame how far from the "2000s candy kids" these ravers are today. It wasn't about dressing in as little clothes as possible and walking around looking, for lack of a better word, a slutty Hello Kitty and sitting against the wall talking all night. Candy kids actually dressed like overgrown kids, which was what made the fashion fun. Oversized pants, oversized overalls with cartoon prints, crazy hair colors and styles, stuffed animal backpacks, stickers, glitter, friendship cards to hand out throughout the night, gum, and of course, tons of candy on your arms and around your neck. We were front and center and ready to dance. And it was NEVER about "I'll trade you this cuff for 10 singles.", no one made cuffs, and if you did, you didn't put value on it when trading with other candy kids throughout the night...the point was to LEAVE with all the candy you made gone. Period. It wasn't about value of your candy. Your goal was to make someone else's night bright.
You may not see the importance in us, but we shaped the Hardcore scene Stateside. We led many to the names of artists and sent them on their merry way to internationally order the Bonkers albums.
Also, When was Hardcore EVER about "Looking cool"? If I remember right, literally most Happy Hardcore albums in the 90s were covered in Cartoon covers...Have you seen the vinyl sleeve for Rainbow Islands?
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