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2023 Predictions

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Ardefisty
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Posted - 2023/01/04 :  01:30:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Ardefisty's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by rafferty:
Will basically keep going in two directions. You have half the scene making more traditional UK Happy Hardcore. 90s & 2000s kind of stuff with fresh production technology.
World Of Obsession
Brutal Kutz
Hardcore 24/7

Then the other half influenced heavily from the Netherlands Hardstyle & EDM scene.
One Seventy
Electric Fox
Justice Hardcore

160 style shit seems definitely on the way out. People are bored of it. Is definitely a Hardcore resurgence in Europe. Hardstyle Producers are dabbling with Hardcore more now. The kicks will definitely keep getting harder.






You also have the breakbeat guys with stuff like the Future Breakz compilations, not to mention the freeform family, I just listened to the Stamina Records' 2022 compilation, and it closed up really solidly; in the finnish scene, it seems the guys from Carbon Based are finally back from their decade hiatus. Also, Kevin Energy just released an album with some juicy collabs (one from the one and only Lost Soul!)

With guys like these, never giving up, I have high hopes for the scene as a whole. Even if it feels stagnated, this just leaves space for younger producers to step up.


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Sulphurik
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Posted - 2023/01/31 :  22:48:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
New Scooter track. I like the first part of the track - it's fairly UK hardcore sounding but then it turns to hardstyle kicks in second part. This seems to be becoming quite a common thing in some hardcore tracks I've heard eg. Ben Nicky - Soulmate track.



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Sulphurik
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Posted - 2023/01/31 :  23:00:49  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
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Originally posted by DJ A.K.:
Hopefully Bouncy Techno will make a return but I?m not holding my breath.



Did you know about this?
https://www.discogs.com/master/2246194-The-Rab-S-The-Rab-S-Lockdown-EP

I need your lovin remix





Not to sound disrespectful or anything, I love bouncy techno but the standard needs to be much higher than this. I know it's traditionally a fairly basic style of music but this is definitely lacking in something.





yes. It sounds a little outdated. Quite uninspired.



It's not hardcore but I like the old skool 90s influences. Thought would make you aware of this remix.




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Edited by - Sulphurik on 2023/01/31 23:03:01
Samination
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Posted - 2023/02/01 :  16:04:59  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Craig Cairney:
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Originally posted by CDJay:
*giggles like a shy schoolgirl*

Anyway, I'm back. More importantly, I'm back in a RFU era way and I refuse to kowtow to proven idiots or their lemmingcide disciples. Half the reason for the current scene situ is bad actors running around with zero accountability. It's time for a scene #metoo 😂

Welcome to 2023.

CDJay




Good to have you back sir. It's not been the same (at least from my perspective) since you took a step back. Any info re: genre tracks / artists etc. over the past few years that you've missed, just holler dude and I'll report back.



aren't you too busy uploading videos to youtube? :P


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Samination
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Posted - 2023/02/05 :  16:58:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Dylan Scott:
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Originally posted by warped_candykid:
I would love to see a return to the 2002-2004 Happy/UK Hardcore sound with 5:00 - 7:00 runtimes with proper intros and outros for mixing



Is that not a thing anymore? I agree, I've been listening to a lot of mixes lately and call me old but, I'm not sure I really like being thrown from one track to the other every two minutes... I feel the depth of some out music has gone.



hasnt been for the mainstream uk hardcore since at least... 2004 XD


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rafferty
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Posted - 2023/02/19 :  03:23:01  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit rafferty's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by Winterlake:
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Originally posted by Vladel:
Great music will still be held back from release while all the shit gets pumped out. There are great songs out there but the labels have their thumbs up their arses as usual.



I have found the opposite. I came back to Hardcore in Jan 2022, with a clear mission to push fresh & originally written Hardcore, no remixes, no bootlegs. New lyrics and 100% original recorded vocals (bar one tune).

The response has been amazing! I've had lots of support from the major Hardcore labels, DJs, streams, promoters etc. There is an appetite for it.

I have some golden rules, in a set, 1/2 remixes max, the rest has to be originals from the last 2 years and I haven't had any shortage of quality material to play.

I don't even load any of the classics from 90s to 2018 on my USB anymore, so I avoid the cheap sugar rush of throwing a classic in the mix. Deleted the lot.

We all need to push the fresh, original music from current producers like other scenes do, or die. The choice is simple. Will you support us? :)



I don't think it applies to remixes of old tracks if they are done creatively and do the original justice.. It should more apply to using the same old clubland & raverbaby sounds over and over again. Like those strings have been done to death for 20 plus years. How long can the same sound keep getting used.
Why not look at all the other possibilities like breakbeats, pianos, EDM House riffs, rap sampling.
I'm not saying these clubland productions are bad. The tracks are really well produced. I just think there are so many more things that can be done.

There is a reason why hardcore was head and shoulders above the rest in the 90s. It was a time when producers thought outside the box with creativity instead of trying to sound the same all the time.

Jack In Box is someone that is actually doing something original with his productions.
Future Breaks is probably the best Hardcore label around at the moment.







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Edited by - rafferty on 2023/02/19 04:06:35
Samination
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Posted - 2023/02/19 :  15:02:22  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Samination's homepage  Reply with quote
hm, maybe the first Jack in the Box track that I actually like? :o
impossibre


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