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CDJay
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 Posted - 2018/03/03 : 08:50:19
I'd be a lot more tolerable if the scene which remained wasn't so intent on throwing money and stature at the very people who decimated and abandoned it.
Meh, to the power of some exponential factor.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 10:35:19
quote:
Originally posted by CDJay:
I'd be a lot more tolerable if the scene which remained wasn't so intent on throwing money and stature at the very people who decimated and abandoned it.
Meh, to the power of some exponential factor.
CDJay
That's one way of looking at it. Fairly cynical though.
People will discover Hardcore and influence the growth of the scene by seeing Hardcore names at big events and on big releases.
This isn't a criticism because we need active labels releasing as you are, but HU panders to people already within the scene. There's not a great deal of outreach happening. I find it a little bizarre that you would leave the suggestion that the fault of projects not hitting targets is down to people decimating and abandoning the scene. There are still people here, and still people discovering the scene. You look at producers like Nanobii and Synthion who have huge followings of fans untapped by HU because you persist in pushing a fairly closed off model dependent on people finding you or who already follow you. Talk to someone like Synthion about exclusive content or an album project, and you would probably find oil.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 11:34:35
The project has hit targets, I just find it amazing that someone like Sharkey who supported pretty much everyone has an artist album out and everyone who ever benefitted from Bonkers etc. is ignoring it. I'm all for outreach but when the largest visible players have zero links to the genre they abandoned all they actually do is stop anyone else getting access to a platform.
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Elipton
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 12:36:57
Well one of the people you probably mean hardly promoted their own album, so it's not really much surprise.
But I do sympathise with that kind of thing. That said, they aren't the only solutions.
Can't you talk to Cotts, Ravine, Jordesuvi and other figures with big followings to get promotion down? Cotts and Ravine have done some great feature mixes in the past for album projects.
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DJ Reevzy
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 13:52:25
Hardcore is clearly a very fragmented genre however i don?t see this as any different to other dance music scenes. I think most new UK Hardcore is utter gash but there are pockets of goodness in the form of eufeion, kniteforce and HU. Guys like billy bunter, slipmatt etc are still supporting and releasing plenty of stuff. Iv seen some negativity towards sharkey for whatever reason but in my mind if certain nobheads dont support the releases then **** em...create the system dont fight it!
Either way iv supported this sharkey project and am grateful to have tracks like genesis in their digital beauty!
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Advather
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 16:06:02
I just cracked bundles 2 and 3 open, and wow there are some good ones on these! The Sharkey & Eclipse tracks, Utopia, Where Shall My Wandering Soul Begin... I've waited a long time for these.
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Samination
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 17:55:48
Well, for one thing, I doubt if he released his 2nd album as originally intended, it would've never been this big (in content)
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 18:05:16
I'm going to have a holiday soon, and I will be far less menstrual after that. Lol
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Alexbturbo
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 20:43:28
I assume, at this stage, it's too late to get the completionist edition?
Haven't had the funds available the last couple of months but do now - but I would assume by now the completionist / catalogue edition is sold out?
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arpz
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 20:50:18
http://www.hardcoreunderground.co.uk/store/view/sharkey-tech-noir-anthology-completionist-edition
Still available - I don't know for sure but I expect if you want stuff signed you'll need to get it ordered quickly because CDJay was planning on doing that before all the snow in the UK so it must be happening fairly soon
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scottyd2k9
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 23:08:22
It says completionist batch 2 but where is 1 ? Sorry it might just be me being dumb. Is batch 1 the stem mix ?
I have CD1,2,3,4 and the stem mix tracks
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scottyd2k9
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Posted - 2018/03/03 : 23:24:03
Ive purchased completionist edition but not received the CD yet. Also will it be signed ?
forgot to add. Thanks CDjay. I really do appreciate the time gone into releasing these.
I couldn't wait for this to be released :D
Ever since I heard sharkey - the awakening
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Ikstra
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Posted - 2018/03/04 : 00:18:14
quote:
Originally posted by scottyd2k9:
It says completionist batch 2 but where is 1 ? Sorry it might just be me being dumb. Is batch 1 the stem mix ?
I have CD1,2,3,4 and the stem mix tracks
Tech Noir Stem Mix Tracks is listed as TNCOMP1. Almost certainly the first batch.
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CDJay
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Posted - 2018/03/04 : 16:11:20
Correct on all counts!
115 tracks already available for completionist types, with more to come 
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Missingno
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Posted - 2018/03/06 : 13:29:15
I loved the third bundle, thanks to CDJay for the great efforts put in.
Before anything else, and as I did previously, I am extremely grateful for all those who have been involved in this huge project and I appreciate the hard work involving the DAT ripping and restoring. Yes, I have also been involved in restoring projects of old Makina DAT tapes and I know how tough and time consuming it is trying to restore bitwise a partially damaged DAT.
That being said, and insisting again on my gratefulness and admiration for all those involved in the restoration of Sharkey's and "Bonkers" label's discography, allow me to point out a couple of flaws that I have noticed in the last batch.
In first place, and as the user Trainwreck has indicated, there is undoubtely a flaw in Ultraworld 5 at 1:37, where a skip clearly occurs, missing about 10 seconds of the song. Could this be fixed? If it is not possible, I offer myself to restore it using the last track of Sharkey's set in Bonkers 2, where Ultraworld 5 is featured with no appreciable vinyl noise at that passage, and thus this could be properly restored if done carefully. Also, there is something in this track that concerns me. If one listens to the very end, in which the last sound fades out through a reverb effect, it can be appreciated that some artifacts occur. According to my own experience, these kind of artifacts usually happen in DAT tapes with poor condition. This may be somehow related with the aforementioned skip at an earlier stage of the song.
In second place, there is also the case of Sharkey & Trixxy - Genesis. After listening carefully and meticulously to Therapy, I have concluded that this track is legitimally sourced from a digital format, most likely a DAT tape. However, I have found out that in the case of Genesis it is not the case, which is instead sourced most likely from vinyl. There are two ways to find out whether a song is sourced from vinyl or not, and Genesis failed both tests when I analyzed it.
1. The most obvious one, the presence of clicks and vinyl noise. If you put your headphones and turn up the volume to the maximum value just when the song is ending, you will find out that there is clearly vinyl noise that pops up as the last sounds of the song are fading out.
2. A not so obvious one, but very useful to catch cleaned-up vinyl rips. By the nature of the vinyls themselves, the grooves of a vinyl have a smaller radius as the song advances. Since the vinyl is always spinning at the same speed, this means that the sound information is more and more compressed as the needle reaches the grooves from the end, which therefore means that in a vinyl rip the sound quality decreses as the song advances. This quality loss is especially remarkable in terms of a distortion of the low frequencies and loss of high frequences, in which, for instance, the sounds with high frequencies such as hi hats sound much lower at the end passages with respect to the starting ones. Therefore, even if a vinyl rip has been properly cleaned up, there is still this gradual quality loss as the song advances, because in the inner grooves there is the same information to be read in less physical space (circumferences with a smaller radius than the outer ones).
Returning now to the main topic involving Genesis, this song has failed both tests, in the sense that both vinyl clicks can be clearly appreciated at the end of the song and that the hi hats sound much louder in the passages from the beginning of the song than in the ending ones, which clearly confirms it as a vinyl rip.
Taking into account this, my doubt concerns whether for some reason it was used a hypothetical DAT tape containing a vinyl rip (probably due to the destruction/degradation of a hypothetical former DAT tape containing the legit digital master) or if it has been directly ripped from a vinyl to include it in this bundle. Regardless of the case, I would like to know whether Genesis can be obtained from another source (for instance, a different DAT tape, which might exist elsewhere), since maybe the legit digital master could be contained therein.
In any case, many thanks for everything. Despite the aforementioned flaws, I am very happy with this praiseworthy restoration of this huge amount of musical patrimony.
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Edited by - Missingno on 2018/03/06 13:39:37 |
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