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Samination
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 Posted - 2016/11/08 : 17:39:52
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
I don't think that many on there were even trolling. The ones that were trolling were obvious to all but the newest members.
I did think it was fist bitingly embarrassing when someone would stumble across the site and sign up, all excited about the latest Darren Styles track, and then get ripped to shreds by someone who wouldn't listen anything that wasn't mid 90's bouncy techno and ridiculed anyone who thought otherwise. Such a great site frequented by a lot of folk into a variety of styles, ruined by a few who gave the site a reputation it certainly didn't deserve.
The waffle board had so many golden moments though, I'd kill to have access to that again.
No wonder Guest is/was the way he was... :P
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 17:50:27
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Originally posted by Samination:
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
I don't think that many on there were even trolling. The ones that were trolling were obvious to all but the newest members.
I did think it was fist bitingly embarrassing when someone would stumble across the site and sign up, all excited about the latest Darren Styles track, and then get ripped to shreds by someone who wouldn't listen anything that wasn't mid 90's bouncy techno and ridiculed anyone who thought otherwise. Such a great site frequented by a lot of folk into a variety of styles, ruined by a few who gave the site a reputation it certainly didn't deserve.
The waffle board had so many golden moments though, I'd kill to have access to that again.
No wonder Guest is/was the way he was... :P
Christ, I was nearly in tears sometimes with him. Arguing with spambots, completely derailing threads in a single post no matter what the original topic was, babbling on about nullnuke and posting lines of meaningless code without anyone even asking for it, and the utter confusion that arose.
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wong
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 17:51:35
What was guests username on ush?
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 18:19:06
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Originally posted by wong:
What was guests username on ush?
Rogue
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Elipton
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 18:22:32
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oh come one elipton! Sharkey's meltdown on your Zonkers thread was nice. IF it wasn't for the use of one unlicensed track, he would have NO legal case against you.
Everyone is allowed to emulate, as long as there is no monotary gain, which I presume is even true in the UK.
My artwork was too lit and he started throwing his weight around.
I'm not worried though. I only reference it indirectly for a bit of a laugh :) It was a bit of a catapult for my music and graphic design endeavours and life is good as result. I hear his circumstances have been less fortunate since that clash. He's still a legend, and I'd buy any music he may or may not release in the future - he's just got a bit of a dicky character.
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 19:03:25
Oh guest, always bragging how BBC 1 Was dying to have him on to play since he was an AMAZING Dj. the guy couldnt beat match for his life. i almost died when he was on here asking for donations for a fancy denon controller.
By the time i got on here USH was long gone. can someone tell me what exactly was USH
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 19:31:07
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Originally posted by DjZelous:
Oh guest, always bragging how BBC 1 Was dying to have him on to play since he was an AMAZING Dj. the guy couldnt beat match for his life. i almost died when he was on here asking for donations for a fancy denon controller.
By the time i got on here USH was long gone. can someone tell me what exactly was USH
Fucking hell, starting a fund to raise 800 pounds or something, and not even getting a single penny, the berk.
USH was a forum, stood for United States of Hardcore. Began in the late 90s. Was filled with PLUR and happy vibes and was busy, and the general chat was known as "waffle" and was fucking legendary.
I'll never forget the buzz and excitement when UK hardcore was just kicking off, Hixxy was playing his first Raverbaby dubplates, the scene was just so exciting again, a completely different sound to the happy hardcore from a couple of years earlier but it was a welcome change. Luna-C releasing his supa-sets, CLSM causing a storm before even releasing a tune, Bonkers returning, the entire userbase all online together for the Radio One special (that sort of thing just didn't happen very often), it was a great time with lots of happy people.
As the years rolled on and the USH users started getting older, there were a lot more cynics and jaded ex-ravers who didn't like the way the music was going, even though all styles were welcome on the forum. They didn't outnumber the rest but negativity is just more obvious.
Sadly the place gained a reputation for negativity and controversy and even people who never used the site wouldn't touch it. There were many daily users posting as normal but the controversial users and trolls unfortunately shouted louder. The waffle board contained lots of political posts, casual racism and pure drivel, and many new users simply weren't welcomed and the owner one day closed the site for a few days to let things cool down, but it didn't improve and he suddenly and without warning pulled the plug on the site. As in, I was reading it on minute, and the next it was gone. Hearts were broken, whilst many other forums rejoiced. A quick replacement was knocked up on some free Geocities-type site but it never took off. For about a year I still automatically typed ush.net when I opened my browser.
But even for all the bad stuff, it was easily the best hardcore forum there ever was and will be. And I've never laughed so much as I have reading waffle.
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 19:40:32
Just Google "ush.net", you'll see a lot more, especially from around the time it died, which might not give you the brightest impression but still.
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DjZelous
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 19:55:15
Damn, What a shame, Sounds like it was the place to be! I would imagine someone must have a saved old cached copy of the site somewhere on some hard drive.
What i wanna know is how did people not liking the "new" scene turn to blatant casual racism, It must have gotten quite nasty if the plug had to be pulled. Was the owner anyone in the hardcore scene or just a random dude?
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 19:59:29
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Originally posted by DjZelous:
Damn, What a shame, Sounds like it was the place to be! I would imagine someone must have a saved old cached copy of the site somewhere on some hard drive.
What i wanna know is how did people not liking the "new" scene turn to blatant casual racism, It must have gotten quite nasty if the plug had to be pulled. Was the owner anyone in the hardcore scene or just a random dude?
It was nothing to do with the music, the waffle board is where everyone went, there were loads of ex ravers and casual listeners over the years who stuck around just for that - unfortunately there were some political users who were EDL affiliated (I mean they have every right to support them but expect to be ripped for it), it was far from a majority of users and almost none were anything to do with the current scene. It just wasn't a welcoming place.
The owner was a raver like everyone else who started a forum. Intelligent bloke, not surprised he got fed up.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 20:45:28
I was an avid reader of ush.net from around 2005 when the scene was absolutely buzzing. I think my post count was about 5 when it was taken down, but that wasn't a reflection of how much time I spent on there. My join date on here is more or less exactly the same time as USH ceased. It always had a really bad reputation but in its heyday I always thought most people posting were decent enough. Towards the end was just ridiculous though. Very rarely went on the waffle board tbh.
Used to always go on the HTID forum when they had a website as well. Posted a bit more regular on there, as people were generally more into the upfront sound at the time.
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Hard2Get
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 20:53:19
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Originally posted by Captain Triceps:
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Originally posted by arpz:
I have loved reading this site since you came Sketchy, don't ever stop :D
It reminds me of the very early days of USH, where everyone was just so positive and upbeat, and no one would be mocked for not being cynical and jaded. I love it.
Before my days then. I joined in 2002 and i found it to be very cliquey. I still posted a fair bit though.
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arpz
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 22:05:39
I think its sad as **** that forums are basically dead, I've actually loved the bit more of a buzz that's been on here the last few weeks. Chokes me up a bit to read some of these replies about how it used to be, can't believe 'our scene' has ended up so badly on its arse.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 22:30:57
USH was in equal parts brilliant, frustrating and absolute bollocks!
Think I was there from early 2003 when I finally got Internet at home.
Was sad to see it turn into nothing more that a 'who can be the biggest bellend' contest.
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2016/11/08 : 23:43:44
Yeah it was always a downer logging on to USH to see no new posts in the music forums, but a few in waffle. Go to waffle, and it's a bunch of political posts or some argument over something trivial.
It's like logging into HHC.com, seeing 18 new posts since your last visit, and they are all in the radio section.
This was only at the end though when numbers were dwindling.
Occasionally you'd get Switchback or DK2X posting some actual hardcore news or interesting information, but then someone who only listens to 90s dutch gabber or stopped listening to rave music in 2001 decides to speak for the whole board and remark how shit it is, "who listens to gaycore, it's for faggots" and then wondered why no one bothers posting anymore.
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