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Jacco
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 Posted - 2017/09/10 : 15:22:30
Anyone got a link to Ganars accusations?
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ViolonC
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Posted - 2017/09/10 : 16:28:48
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Jacco
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Posted - 2017/09/12 : 16:56:21
What else....
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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/09/30 : 16:37:23
Was this about the saving light remix?
track is weak as ****.
Someone could have said darren or breeze or stonebank made that; and nobody would bat an eye.
That is just disgustingly wrong.
What happened to knowing who wrote the track by their style?
Man Hixxy... WEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK
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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/09/30 : 16:41:37
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Saw all the trance heads going barmy over it being played at an event.
Makes Hardcore snobbery look like child's play.
they liked it; or did not like it?
i would not have been pleased. it's not ****ing trance; it's not ****ing hardcore; it's modified hardstyle.
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DJ_FunDaBounce
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Posted - 2017/09/30 : 18:39:33
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Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Saw all the trance heads going barmy over it being played at an event.
Makes Hardcore snobbery look like child's play.
they liked it; or did not like it?
i would not have been pleased. it's not ****ing trance; it's not ****ing hardcore; it's modified hardstyle.
It's beautiful.
and it goes down well in sets, too.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/09/30 : 20:19:23
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Originally posted by DJ_FunDaBounce:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Saw all the trance heads going barmy over it being played at an event.
Makes Hardcore snobbery look like child's play.
they liked it; or did not like it?
i would not have been pleased. it's not ****ing trance; it's not ****ing hardcore; it's modified hardstyle.
It's beautiful.
and it goes down well in sets, too.
not feelin it at all. this style of " hardcore" is bland as hell imo.
I would def find myself running over to the dnb stage for some actual power ; shit; i would take gabber over this sleepy nonsense. it lacks so much energy that uk hardcore has.
no idea why the hardcore leaders want to pussify the genre so much.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/09/30 : 21:27:35
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Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Saw all the trance heads going barmy over it being played at an event.
Makes Hardcore snobbery look like child's play.
they liked it; or did not like it?
i would not have been pleased. it's not ****ing trance; it's not ****ing hardcore; it's modified hardstyle.
Generally, massively disliked.
I thought a lot of Hardcore listeners were closed minded but that was on another level.
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htid_4_life
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Posted - 2017/10/01 : 10:52:45
does it matter that much if it sounds similar to something else? if you enjoy it buy it, if you don't, then save your money. It is ironic when people say "it sounds like gammer it should only sound like your own music" so you do or don't want his music to sound the same? why should he use the same kicks and things for years on end, the scene did that before and eventually it nearly died, it went stale things needed to change, god forbid when they do hey
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CDJay
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Posted - 2017/10/01 : 17:54:08
100 percent worked in 2012.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/10/01 : 23:34:00
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Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Saw all the trance heads going barmy over it being played at an event.
Makes Hardcore snobbery look like child's play.
they liked it; or did not like it?
i would not have been pleased. it's not ****ing trance; it's not ****ing hardcore; it's modified hardstyle.
Generally, massively disliked.
I thought a lot of Hardcore listeners were closed minded but that was on another level.
I just don't see how paying hard earned money for one thing; and then unexpectedly getting another and being uspset is honestly close minded. People are paying for what they want to hear. I think everybody already knows most trance listeners are not fans of hardcore; I guess it's a cool shout out to hixxy and hardcore?
this idea that everybody loves every genre and they should all go together and nobody will complain is seriously whack. the huge variety between them all and the differences because and why people like those differences is what makes it all ideal; not trying to conform so everyone is content.
I guess everyone has an opinion on how many off genre songs should be played in a certain set of a certain genre; i think it should be about zero. I want the pure journey of the journey I love; and paid for. Maybe things need to evolve to be more clear about certain sets in certain places for seperate reasons.
I know at a psytrance fest nobody has any issue with hours upon hours of psytrance; but if someone decided to drop a trap remix to give their friend props ( or whatever) ; most people ( sure ; not all) would get upset. people should speak up for the specific thing they love. the ever forgiving and accepting hardcore scene probably has more issues because of those reasons.
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Captain Triceps
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Posted - 2017/10/01 : 23:47:02
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Originally posted by trippnface:
the ever forgiving and accepting hardcore scene
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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2017/10/02 : 06:50:03
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Originally posted by trippnface:
this idea that everybody loves every genre and they should all go together and nobody will complain is seriously whack. the huge variety between them all and the differences because and why people like those differences is what makes it all ideal; not trying to conform so everyone is content.
I guess everyone has an opinion on how many off genre songs should be played in a certain set of a certain genre; i think it should be about zero. I want the pure journey of the journey I love; and paid for. Maybe things need to evolve to be more clear about certain sets in certain places for seperate reasons.
Just my two penneth, but with all due respect, I think you're in the minority here.
Imagine I'm just a normal dude that dabbles on SoundCloud a bit with no real defined taste in music that happened to go to a Gareth Emery show. If he played all the vocal emotional trance stuff I'd be "ok cool that was a great show and what I expected".
However I'd find a performance to be a lot more memorable if he flipped the usual trope of banging out the same genre of music for two hours and dropped a Hixxy or Darren Styles remix of one of his songs in his set. Ultimately I'd either go "mehh, that wasn't for me" or I'd be like "Wowww, what is this?!!"
I think being polarizing and setting yourself apart from the crowd you were supposedly part of (this also applies to Gammer and to a degree S3RL too) is what gets you noticed.
Sort of the same applies to Hardwell that year he closed Ultra fest. Idk if you watched the livestream but being a dude typically known for mainstream prog/electro house he decided to close his headlining show with Hardstyle. On twitter you had people both criticizing and praising his decision either way it ruffled feathers and got people talking about him.
Also, if you paid for a specific "Psy Trance Festival 2017" then sure, whatever. But if I paid for a Gareth Emery Show I'm gonna get a Gareth Emery show, which can be whatever he decides to show me... not "Vocal Trance Show".
I'll still have expectations like "oh, I hope he plays concrete angel" but you get my point.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2017/10/02 : 09:47:54
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Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Saw all the trance heads going barmy over it being played at an event.
Makes Hardcore snobbery look like child's play.
they liked it; or did not like it?
i would not have been pleased. it's not ****ing trance; it's not ****ing hardcore; it's modified hardstyle.
Generally, massively disliked.
I thought a lot of Hardcore listeners were closed minded but that was on another level.
I just don't see how paying hard earned money for one thing; and then unexpectedly getting another and being uspset is honestly close minded. People are paying for what they want to hear. I think everybody already knows most trance listeners are not fans of hardcore; I guess it's a cool shout out to hixxy and hardcore?
this idea that everybody loves every genre and they should all go together and nobody will complain is seriously whack. the huge variety between them all and the differences because and why people like those differences is what makes it all ideal; not trying to conform so everyone is content.
I guess everyone has an opinion on how many off genre songs should be played in a certain set of a certain genre; i think it should be about zero. I want the pure journey of the journey I love; and paid for. Maybe things need to evolve to be more clear about certain sets in certain places for seperate reasons.
I know at a psytrance fest nobody has any issue with hours upon hours of psytrance; but if someone decided to drop a trap remix to give their friend props ( or whatever) ; most people ( sure ; not all) would get upset. people should speak up for the specific thing they love. the ever forgiving and accepting hardcore scene probably has more issues because of those reasons.
That's all well and good but most of the comments I saw weren't even from people who were there
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trippnface
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Posted - 2017/10/02 : 16:58:00
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Originally posted by jordesuvi:
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Originally posted by trippnface:
this idea that everybody loves every genre and they should all go together and nobody will complain is seriously whack. the huge variety between them all and the differences because and why people like those differences is what makes it all ideal; not trying to conform so everyone is content.
I guess everyone has an opinion on how many off genre songs should be played in a certain set of a certain genre; i think it should be about zero. I want the pure journey of the journey I love; and paid for. Maybe things need to evolve to be more clear about certain sets in certain places for seperate reasons.
Just my two penneth, but with all due respect, I think you're in the minority here.
Imagine I'm just a normal dude that dabbles on SoundCloud a bit with no real defined taste in music that happened to go to a Gareth Emery show. If he played all the vocal emotional trance stuff I'd be "ok cool that was a great show and what I expected".
However I'd find a performance to be a lot more memorable if he flipped the usual trope of banging out the same genre of music for two hours and dropped a Hixxy or Darren Styles remix of one of his songs in his set. Ultimately I'd either go "mehh, that wasn't for me" or I'd be like "Wowww, what is this?!!"
I think being polarizing and setting yourself apart from the crowd you were supposedly part of (this also applies to Gammer and to a degree S3RL too) is what gets you noticed.
Sort of the same applies to Hardwell that year he closed Ultra fest. Idk if you watched the livestream but being a dude typically known for mainstream prog/electro house he decided to close his headlining show with Hardstyle. On twitter you had people both criticizing and praising his decision either way it ruffled feathers and got people talking about him.
Also, if you paid for a specific "Psy Trance Festival 2017" then sure, whatever. But if I paid for a Gareth Emery Show I'm gonna get a Gareth Emery show, which can be whatever he decides to show me... not "Vocal Trance Show".
I'll still have expectations like "oh, I hope he plays concrete angel" but you get my point.
this is touchy stuff; were these problems around in the 90'?
a hardcore artist would just drop into a house track and everybody loved it because " diversity" ?
a dnb artist dropped an old school hardcore track and the crowd was expected to accept and or enjoy it?
I just see it a a tactic of division. It divides more than it unites.
and the " ever forgiving and accepting hardcore scene " clearly does not apply to me ;)
I have zero issues calling anybody out over percieved faults or fallicious statements/ actions. As I owuld expect anybody to call me out for doing the same . this fanyboy disease is truly pitiful. It is definitely the worst here in USA with these " kandi kid" types.
Gammer and s3rl might have gotten more " noticed" but the quality went way down; and the most serious of their fanbase moved away.
They can call it success if they want.... more like taking advantage of the most basic and commerical aspects of a certain aspect for monetary gain. Not my defintion of success... to each their own.
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