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Si Thompson
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 Posted - 2019/11/12 : 11:11:08
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Originally posted by Triquatra:
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Originally posted by Samination:
He's always been a lying sod, who'd say anything to get money
Pretty sure you just word for word wrote the dictionary definition of any politician ;)
And Trump
And Samination..
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/11/12 : 14:07:57
well I wouldn't mind any money. I'm completely skint :(
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/11/12 : 18:56:56
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well I wouldn't mind any money. I'm completely skint :(
I've purchased a Euro Millions ticket for tonight. 90 Million jackpot.
If I win, I'll buy you a copy of 'Bang - Shooting Star (Euro Mix)'.
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Rhoobarb2005
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Posted - 2019/11/14 : 15:39:08
I guess people must be OK voting for the tories who think that Russians have a right to invest in our politics.
But yay, at least we get our 300+million back into the NHS.... Oh wait.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/11/14 : 16:09:45
You couldn't make it up.
Lies, broken promises, austerity etc etc....
No thought for anyone but themselves and the most well off.
But that's the type of person they want to attract.
I generally have suffered THAT badly under the Tory government, but that's more by luck than anything else.
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2019/11/15 : 07:44:34
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And whats the alternative ? Labour ? LOL They've already said they would hike taxes and borrow to pay for all their spending, and raise inheritence tax threshold.
Yeah I fancy living in a Corbyn led government, lol with Diane ****ing Abbott as home secretary who said yesterday, free movement of people would not stop under them.
Anyone voting labour needs shooting.
This is the problem. Im no fan of the tories but the opposition is laughable and has been for a number of years now. I guess this is why the SNP are so popular in Scotland but the reality is that they are a joke too.
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Rhoobarb2005
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Posted - 2019/11/15 : 07:54:30
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And whats the alternative ? Labour ? LOL They've already said they would hike taxes and borrow to pay for all their spending, and raise inheritence tax threshold.
Yeah I fancy living in a Corbyn led government, lol with Diane ****ing Abbott as home secretary who said yesterday, free movement of people would not stop under them.
Anyone voting labour needs shooting.
Raise taxes? If it means public services get reinstated, great!
Borrow to pay for spending? That's how global economics works, and has done for many years. I guess austerity cuts where the rich keep their money but but the poor suffers is better?
Raise inheritance tax (I think you meant lower)? Great news! People with money now paying their way. About time too!
Free movement of people? Also good news.
Where are your bad points? All I see is Daily Mail headline spin.
As the cons have said, we are in this together. Well, I am still waiting for my sweet, sweet Russian lobbyist payout.
Brexit is about the rich trying to keep that wealth.
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/11/15 : 08:34:00
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
And whats the alternative ? Labour ? LOL They've already said they would hike taxes and borrow to pay for all their spending, and raise inheritence tax threshold.
Yeah I fancy living in a Corbyn led government, lol with Diane ****ing Abbott as home secretary who said yesterday, free movement of people would not stop under them.
Anyone voting labour needs shooting.
No I don't fancy Labour either but that's not a reason for everybody to be a rabid tory lover.
I know it's like asking people if they'd rather get a poke in the eye or a kick in the bollocks...
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/11/15 : 09:55:44
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And whats the alternative ? Labour ? LOL They've already said they would hike taxes and borrow to pay for all their spending, and raise inheritence tax threshold.
Yeah I fancy living in a Corbyn led government, lol with Diane ****ing Abbott as home secretary who said yesterday, free movement of people would not stop under them.
Anyone voting labour needs shooting.
Spot on, LeVzi.
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Rhoobarb2005
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Posted - 2019/11/16 : 09:26:11
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
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Originally posted by Rhoobarb2005:
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
And whats the alternative ? Labour ? LOL They've already said they would hike taxes and borrow to pay for all their spending, and raise inheritence tax threshold.
Yeah I fancy living in a Corbyn led government, lol with Diane ****ing Abbott as home secretary who said yesterday, free movement of people would not stop under them.
Anyone voting labour needs shooting.
Raise taxes? If it means public services get reinstated, great!
Borrow to pay for spending? That's how global economics works, and has done for many years. I guess austerity cuts where the rich keep their money but but the poor suffers is better?
Raise inheritance tax (I think you meant lower)? Great news! People with money now paying their way. About time too!
Free movement of people? Also good news.
Where are your bad points? All I see is Daily Mail headline spin.
As the cons have said, we are in this together. Well, I am still waiting for my sweet, sweet Russian lobbyist payout.
Brexit is about the rich trying to keep that wealth.
So you are happy to pay more tax ? happy to have your paid for home taxed to **** when you die so your kids wont get it's value, what kinda **** are you ?
And free movement of people , good ?
All I am seeing is the looney left wing asshat responses i've seen since 2016, glad ****s like you are on the way out.
No-one wants to pay taxes, but hey, public services don't pay for themselves.
Pay more so essential services that were absolutely destroyed are put back, like better healthcare, social care programs for youth and deprived areas, actually dealing with things like mental health, etc? You bet I would!
Happy my kids don't get all the money from my house when I die? Due to health issues, the option to own a house never materialised. But hey, my kids are quite happy, content and independent. Understanding the value of money without some handout waiting for them when I snuff it.
Part of the reason we have the problems in the world is because of the few who get gifted money, live in privilege their whole life and don't live in the real world, and yet get to play puppet master to those that do. But that's by the by.
And free movement of people, good ? Yep, you read correctly, well done.
I have always thought of myself as a centre left to be honest, but I guess if you consider yourself centre to right, then I must be far left, because I wouldn't want to be grouped in with the angry, selfish, nationalist, racist crowd of Daily Mail readers.
I mean, I was apolitical, aligned to no party, because I see that they are all pretty bad. But having seen the damage and carnage caused by the cons. Having seen the increase in things like food banks, homelessness, removal of essential local services, etc. All while the privileged whine "we are in this together". I now have to vote for the lesser of the evils. I would rather vote for the higher taxes to help others than the morally bankrupt, 'screw you, got mine' group, willing to trash the country just so their friends can keep their money. As long as the rich and corporations are also taxed without loopholes (Yay EU!)
The fact you are getting angry and trying to defend selfish liars says a lot about the state of our country.
But you know what, I still value your opinion, and appreciate your view on things. I just disagree. No need to be angry. 
So instead of lowering yourself to just petty insults with no real substance, (come one, you can be better than an American republican). How about having an adult discussion?
EDIT: Just read that you are voting for Farage. Oh well, there goes the hope of an adult conversation.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2019/11/16 : 21:54:57
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Oh and about these food banks. I would love to search the pockets and bags of those people who enter food banks.
I bet most of then have iPhones. I bet most of them don't stop their spending on fags and booze to feed their children when they can just go to a food bank and get it for free. Every prime ministers questions I hear the word food banks. If you offer people something for free they are going to take it.
I'm on benefits and Iv'e never needed to go to a food bank. It's all about money management. Manage your money properly and it can go far. You can have nice things if you spend sensibly and save up. Also find money Opportunities where ever you can. Even ?5 cash in hand an hour is worth it.
Yes there are some genuinely poor people out there but it's not as big a problem as Labour say it is. I'm also not saying everyone who goes to food banks doesn't really need it. I'm just saying I bet most of them don't.
It's people like that who take away from the more needy. Same with the benefits system. Programs like benefit street made people think all people on benefits were scum. It fuelled the benefit changes which the conservatives used to get votes, because people were angry they have to go to work and struggle on a small living, When these people can do nothing and get free money.
I have seen this so many times. People who could work doing everything they can to avoid it. Then they criticise others for doing the same. They lie and cheat the system to get everything they can.
It angers me so much. Here I am can't go out can't get the help I need. Suffering in pain with constant illness having my energy robbed from me. Yet people who can go out and live 100% independently get everything. They can drive them selves to the betting shop they can go for a day out just because they have nothing else better to do.
But despite all of that I'm still voting conservative.
I could be selfish and think about myself and what I need and want now. Then have to pay for it later when austerity has to come back to clean up the mess.
Or
I'm going to vote conservative in hopes that the finances will improve as they have been doing. Hoping that we can improve the economy get more Jobs more people paying tax. Then have some money left over from our current commitments and dept payments to spend improving things.
As for Brexit I voted out and still would. Let's get a proper Brexit. If at the next election it's still not done I'm never voting again.
Thats my take on it.
Interesting points especially on the food banks. Labour are obsessed with them but care very little about the people who use them. They will say anything for a vote and this week Corbyn has gone mad on promises that we all know that he cannot keep!
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Posted - 2019/11/16 : 22:54:38
You know that Labour are doing a rubbish job when people on benefits/with disabilities are voting Conservative!
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Posted - 2019/11/17 : 18:57:52
Well it started off fairly civilised.
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Rhoobarb2005
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Posted - 2019/11/17 : 19:21:59
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Well it started off fairly civilised.
Meh, it's a shame that some people think insults and playground name calling makes for a decent discussion. But politics and the internet seems to have a habit of upsetting some folk.
Regardless of which side we choose to plant a flag (or not at all), I think it's safe to assume that interesting times are ahead.
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/11/18 : 19:38:07
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Well it started off fairly civilised.
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