Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2020/06/12 : 08:44:51
They are trying to remove Baden Powell's statue in Poole. It is our only statue and guess who suggested it? Thats right the former Labour candidate:
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2020/06/12 : 08:48:43
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
Yeah they would do, because it showed the labour MP as an absolute idiot. A black woman suggesting Priti Patel has no idea about racism. Its sad but I think everyone of colour has probably experienced racism at some point. And this has to stop. But unfortunately BLM is being hijacked by the left, and used as a means to push left wing agenda's.
Yet had Cummings said something that would be misinterpreted as slightly off then they would have been all over it like a rash.
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2020/06/12 : 09:51:04
If you think the BBC is left-biased then you're ****ing deluded.
Imagine thinking being anti-facist is a problem.
You can claim Kinnock is worse than cummings if you want, or say that what cummings did was OK, the fact is, Kinnock wasn't involved in writing the rules, Kinnock wasn't riddled with the virus, Kinnock didn't put his family in his car to 'test his eyes'. Cummings is the hypocrit here, not me.
Absolutely delighted to hear of Farages sacking yesterday, bet that's got you all a bit worked up :D At least you've still got Turbogammon Ferrari on there, **** knows why they're still willing to put up with that.
Smoogie Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2020/06/12 : 09:59:29
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
If you think the BBC is left-biased then you're ****ing deluded.
Imagine thinking being anti-facist is a problem.
You can claim Kinnock is worse than cummings if you want, or say that what cummings did was OK, the fact is, Kinnock wasn't involved in writing the rules, Kinnock wasn't riddled with the virus, Kinnock didn't put his family in his car to 'test his eyes'. Cummings is the hypocrit here, not me.
Absolutely delighted to hear of Farages sacking yesterday, bet that's got you all a bit worked up :D At least you've still got Turbogammon Ferrari on there, **** knows why they're still willing to put up with that.
I am not actually a huge supporter of Farage. I don't dislike the man but I have never really followed him much
Samination Advanced Member
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Posted - 2020/06/12 : 12:03:24
quote:Originally posted by Smoogie:
The bias at at the BBC is out of control.
Didn't BBC have a fall out with the current mayor of london, who happens to be a lefty?
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Posted - 2020/06/12 : 13:26:28
These protestsers wanting statues removed are ****ing idiots.
Especially the Winston Churchill one, these people need to remember that people like churchill and all the others sacrificed themselves to give us our freedom that we have today and that needs to be honored and respected.
They boarded up his statue and the cenotaph , ****ing shocking it came to that. These people should be ashamed.
quote:Originally posted by Anon.:
These protestsers wanting statues removed are ****ing idiots.
Especially the Winston Churchill one, these people need to remember that people like churchill and all the others sacrificed themselves to give us our freedom that we have today and that needs to be honored and respected.
They boarded up his statue and the cenotaph , ****ing shocking it came to that. These people should be ashamed.
Exactly. Like it or not, the whole country was built on slave trade. We cant rewrite history. Where do we stop with this shite? Do we just nuke Africa seeing as the entire human race can be traced back to Africa? Shameful stuff.
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
614 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2020/06/15 : 12:15:21
quote:Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:Originally posted by Anon.:
These protestsers wanting statues removed are ****ing idiots.
Especially the Winston Churchill one, these people need to remember that people like churchill and all the others sacrificed themselves to give us our freedom that we have today and that needs to be honored and respected.
They boarded up his statue and the cenotaph , ****ing shocking it came to that. These people should be ashamed.
Exactly. Like it or not, the whole country was built on slave trade. We cant rewrite history. Where do we stop with this shite? Do we just nuke Africa seeing as the entire human race can be traced back to Africa? Shameful stuff.
No one is trying to rewrite history. People wanted a plaque to say that Colston wasn't just straight up wonderful, that's all, couldn't get it, no one wanted to do that. So instead, black people were forced to walk past a celebration of a slave trader. I don't know how you can justify it
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
614 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2020/06/15 : 12:20:26
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
If you think the BBC is left-biased then you're ****ing deluded.
Imagine thinking being anti-facist is a problem.
You can claim Kinnock is worse than cummings if you want, or say that what cummings did was OK, the fact is, Kinnock wasn't involved in writing the rules, Kinnock wasn't riddled with the virus, Kinnock didn't put his family in his car to 'test his eyes'. Cummings is the hypocrit here, not me.
Absolutely delighted to hear of Farages sacking yesterday, bet that's got you all a bit worked up :D At least you've still got Turbogammon Ferrari on there, **** knows why they're still willing to put up with that.
This is an example of the left wing delusion that we see now on a daily basis. Total denial anything their lot do is wrong, but blaming everyone else. What a snowflake. Kinnock is as bad as Cummings, they both broke the rules, but the hysteria was over Cummings and Kinnock was never mentioned, and that was the BBC. Did they BBC condemn him ? No, they started a witch hunt against Boris for not sacking him. The BBC are so far left now they are beyond help, and the fact you think thats a delusion is beyond me, the snowflakes ive seen denying the riots in London were bad, in fact blaming a poorly trained officer for lefty asshats throwing bikes at them.
And as for Farage, LBC have become the more and more left wing, and i've never paid any attention to LBC anyway, or Farage on there. The Brexit Party stopped having meaning after we finally got out of the EU. So no, I wasn't bothered at all, but we still left didn't we. What a result for common sense. I bet that still stings like a bitch to you retarded lefties.
I didn't deny it. Cummings is a hypocrit, Kinnock is not. If you are in charge of making the rules, and then don't abide by them, you're worse than someone who just broke the rules.
How can you refute that?
Oh yes, we've well and truly left the EU haven't we, and Boris' oven-ready deal is SO READY TO GO!... Oh wait, no it isn't. It's 'unfair' according to the man himself. The laughable thing is, the swathes of idiots that voted for brexit are likely to be the ones hurt by it the most. I don't suppose it'll affect me very much, but it'll affect the poorer. What a retard I am to be thinking of them.
quote:Originally posted by Anon.:
These protestsers wanting statues removed are ****ing idiots.
Especially the Winston Churchill one, these people need to remember that people like churchill and all the others sacrificed themselves to give us our freedom that we have today and that needs to be honored and respected.
They boarded up his statue and the cenotaph , ****ing shocking it came to that. These people should be ashamed.
Exactly. Like it or not, the whole country was built on slave trade. We cant rewrite history. Where do we stop with this shite? Do we just nuke Africa seeing as the entire human race can be traced back to Africa? Shameful stuff.
No one is trying to rewrite history. People wanted a plaque to say that Colston wasn't just straight up wonderful, that's all, couldn't get it, no one wanted to do that. So instead, black people were forced to walk past a celebration of a slave trader. I don't know how you can justify it
Thats ********. They wanted a plaque and didnt get one so decided to tear it down? These arseholes would have taken it down regardless of whether it had a plaque or not. If the plaque was such an issue why wait until protests/riots following the murder of someone in another country, before they tear it down? They are opportunists and its disgraceful.
As I said, the whole country was built on slave trade. People cant just tear statues down because hundreds of years later things have changed. It is vandalism pure and simple - where does it end? If anything it should be a positive reminder that the human race has evolved from the days of slavery.
The same applies for taking down tv shows like Little Britain and the many others that were taken down. That is a dangerous game imo. Not that I was a fan of them or anything but we cant just delete historical programmes because it doesnt fit with modern thinking. Again, where does it stop?
Unfortunately, it is engrained in human nature to have biases such as racism. Black people also have biases. Until we evolve again it will never go away. Its like protesting against ourselves. At least in the U.K. we are miles ahead of other counties. London is one of the most multi-cultural cities on the planet.
Alert moderatorEdited by - The drunken scotsman on 2020/06/16 07:22:30
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
614 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2020/06/16 : 08:43:49
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
If you think the BBC is left-biased then you're ****ing deluded.
Imagine thinking being anti-facist is a problem.
You can claim Kinnock is worse than cummings if you want, or say that what cummings did was OK, the fact is, Kinnock wasn't involved in writing the rules, Kinnock wasn't riddled with the virus, Kinnock didn't put his family in his car to 'test his eyes'. Cummings is the hypocrit here, not me.
Absolutely delighted to hear of Farages sacking yesterday, bet that's got you all a bit worked up :D At least you've still got Turbogammon Ferrari on there, **** knows why they're still willing to put up with that.
This is an example of the left wing delusion that we see now on a daily basis. Total denial anything their lot do is wrong, but blaming everyone else. What a snowflake. Kinnock is as bad as Cummings, they both broke the rules, but the hysteria was over Cummings and Kinnock was never mentioned, and that was the BBC. Did they BBC condemn him ? No, they started a witch hunt against Boris for not sacking him. The BBC are so far left now they are beyond help, and the fact you think thats a delusion is beyond me, the snowflakes ive seen denying the riots in London were bad, in fact blaming a poorly trained officer for lefty asshats throwing bikes at them.
And as for Farage, LBC have become the more and more left wing, and i've never paid any attention to LBC anyway, or Farage on there. The Brexit Party stopped having meaning after we finally got out of the EU. So no, I wasn't bothered at all, but we still left didn't we. What a result for common sense. I bet that still stings like a bitch to you retarded lefties.
I didn't deny it. Cummings is a hypocrit, Kinnock is not. If you are in charge of making the rules, and then don't abide by them, you're worse than someone who just broke the rules.
How can you refute that?
Oh yes, we've well and truly left the EU haven't we, and Boris' oven-ready deal is SO READY TO GO!... Oh wait, no it isn't. It's 'unfair' according to the man himself. The laughable thing is, the swathes of idiots that voted for brexit are likely to be the ones hurt by it the most. I don't suppose it'll affect me very much, but it'll affect the poorer. What a retard I am to be thinking of them.
Thats delusion, because you are finding order in people breaking rules. Cummings broke the rules, as did Kinnock, as did Tahir Ali, MP from Labour who went to a funeral. In fact a lot broke the rules, so why were there no massive cries all over the media to sack Kinnock ??????? Simple question, why was there no massive media attention to them? Media bias. Simple answer.
I don't refute any of it, Cummings was an idiot, as was Kinnock and Ali, and they either all keep their jobs or they all lose them.
Are are a retard, because your hypocrasy is laughable, people are idiots for voting for brexit yet you are concerned about them. The fk you are, you are just praying for things to get bad for them, that's the truth of left wing attitudes. You WANT people so suffer because of their beliefs just to prove your point. And if they did, you'd actually not care 2 sh!ts, and be like "Well you reap what you sow" So don't try to pretend you care anything about them, you don't.
Whole reason there was a witch hunt on Cummings was because he was behind the sucessful Brexit campaign, and they haven't forgotten.
Oh and by the way, the fact you mention Laura Kuenssberg , to me, shows where you're at. She is the most biased , and quite frankly terrible corespondent on the BBC. If you think she's good, you need looking at
No, I'm not 'finding order', I'm stating that being a hypocrit and a rule breaker is worse than just being a rule breaker. It's two things, instead of one. Two. Get it? Two things.... I could understand the trouble if we were talking about double digits or more but this is literally the difference between one and two, keep up.
If you're going to call someone a retard, try to make sure that you spell all the words correctly in the very sentence making the claim. Having said that, hypocrisy is a bit of a theme here.
Yeah, a vast majority are idiots, they're voting for a dream that they can't define. Nothing tangible. Sucked in by the promise that they'd be sticking it to the elite and ?350 million a week to the NHS. I'm not praying for things to get worse but I can see why you'd think that might be the case - you're framing it up in the way that you personally see things, and how you'd respond. That's exactly what I'd expect from a single issue voter. It is possible to feel compassion for other people, not everything has to be a football match.
The vast majority of the media were in support of brexit. Larua Kuenssberg is not good, no, she shows insane bias towards the tories. Going as far as to break electoral law on election day by talking about how things weren't 'looking good' for labour based on postal votes. It's quite amusing really, both sides seem to always say that the BBC is biased for the other team.
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
614 posts Joined: Aug, 2012
Posted - 2020/06/16 : 08:54:20
quote:Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:Originally posted by arpz:
quote:Originally posted by The drunken scotsman:
quote:Originally posted by Anon.:
These protestsers wanting statues removed are ****ing idiots.
Especially the Winston Churchill one, these people need to remember that people like churchill and all the others sacrificed themselves to give us our freedom that we have today and that needs to be honored and respected.
They boarded up his statue and the cenotaph , ****ing shocking it came to that. These people should be ashamed.
Exactly. Like it or not, the whole country was built on slave trade. We cant rewrite history. Where do we stop with this shite? Do we just nuke Africa seeing as the entire human race can be traced back to Africa? Shameful stuff.
No one is trying to rewrite history. People wanted a plaque to say that Colston wasn't just straight up wonderful, that's all, couldn't get it, no one wanted to do that. So instead, black people were forced to walk past a celebration of a slave trader. I don't know how you can justify it
Thats ********. They wanted a plaque and didnt get one so decided to tear it down? These arseholes would have taken it down regardless of whether it had a plaque or not. If the plaque was such an issue why wait until protests/riots following the murder of someone in another country, before they tear it down? They are opportunists and its disgraceful.
As I said, the whole country was built on slave trade. People cant just tear statues down because hundreds of years later things have changed. It is vandalism pure and simple - where does it end? If anything it should be a positive reminder that the human race has evolved from the days of slavery.
The same applies for taking down tv shows like Little Britain and the many others that were taken down. That is a dangerous game imo. Not that I was a fan of them or anything but we cant just delete historical programmes because it doesnt fit with modern thinking. Again, where does it stop?
Unfortunately, it is engrained in human nature to have biases such as racism. Black people also have biases. Until we evolve again it will never go away. Its like protesting against ourselves. At least in the U.K. we are miles ahead of other counties. London is one of the most multi-cultural cities on the planet.
You don't know what they would've done. Why couldn't they add a plaque? Like I said, add context. like they intend to with the TV shows etc.
All of that shit is definitely a distraction though, I'll agree on that point. The statues, the TV stuff, I think are all valid arguments to be having but throwing it in with the BLM movement just dilutes the message.
Children aren't racist. So I think that's total bollocks. And we're not that far ahead. Black people are forty times more likely to be stop and searched, five times more likely to have force used against them, twice as likely to be detained under the mental health act, to name just a few stats that I can remember without Googling. It's a ****ing good job our police don't have guns.
quote:Originally posted by Anon.:
These protestsers wanting statues removed are ****ing idiots.
Especially the Winston Churchill one, these people need to remember that people like churchill and all the others sacrificed themselves to give us our freedom that we have today and that needs to be honored and respected.
They boarded up his statue and the cenotaph , ****ing shocking it came to that. These people should be ashamed.
Exactly. Like it or not, the whole country was built on slave trade. We cant rewrite history. Where do we stop with this shite? Do we just nuke Africa seeing as the entire human race can be traced back to Africa? Shameful stuff.
No one is trying to rewrite history. People wanted a plaque to say that Colston wasn't just straight up wonderful, that's all, couldn't get it, no one wanted to do that. So instead, black people were forced to walk past a celebration of a slave trader. I don't know how you can justify it
Thats ********. They wanted a plaque and didnt get one so decided to tear it down? These arseholes would have taken it down regardless of whether it had a plaque or not. If the plaque was such an issue why wait until protests/riots following the murder of someone in another country, before they tear it down? They are opportunists and its disgraceful.
As I said, the whole country was built on slave trade. People cant just tear statues down because hundreds of years later things have changed. It is vandalism pure and simple - where does it end? If anything it should be a positive reminder that the human race has evolved from the days of slavery.
The same applies for taking down tv shows like Little Britain and the many others that were taken down. That is a dangerous game imo. Not that I was a fan of them or anything but we cant just delete historical programmes because it doesnt fit with modern thinking. Again, where does it stop?
Unfortunately, it is engrained in human nature to have biases such as racism. Black people also have biases. Until we evolve again it will never go away. Its like protesting against ourselves. At least in the U.K. we are miles ahead of other counties. London is one of the most multi-cultural cities on the planet.
You don't know what they would've done. Why couldn't they add a plaque? Like I said, add context. like they intend to with the TV shows etc.
All of that shit is definitely a distraction though, I'll agree on that point. The statues, the TV stuff, I think are all valid arguments to be having but throwing it in with the BLM movement just dilutes the message.
Children aren't racist. So I think that's total bollocks. And we're not that far ahead. Black people are forty times more likely to be stop and searched, five times more likely to have force used against them, twice as likely to be detained under the mental health act, to name just a few stats that I can remember without Googling. It's a ****ing good job our police don't have guns.
Perhaps not but then again neither do you and you are the one offering the plaque as an excuse for tearing down a statue.
Children arent racist? Dont know where to start with that. When I was younger, I remember racism was always a lot worse in younger people who didnt understand the extent of what they were saying when they called someone a racist name. You are living in a fantasy land if you think racism doesnt exist in younger age groups.
arpz Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 2020/06/16 : 11:01:37
Not really offering it as an excuse, but you can say 'We can't have people doing this sort of thing' and then what? Nothing changes - the plaque was attempted for years and years, nothing changed so is that alright? Presumably for you, it would be alright, because you're not troubled by it. I think it would trouble black people though, if they were suffering various types of oppression daily to have to walk past a literal celebration of a man who inflicted it on thousands.
I meant like toddlers really, it's not inherent. It's a learned thing.
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