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Smoogie
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 Posted - 2019/04/12 : 21:54:24
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Quick rundown of my thoughts.
I wouldn't vote for a party of 'traitors' if they were the only choice.
I voted remain and would do so every single time.
But! I don't want another vote or the result reversed. The result should stand despite so many people having no idea what they were voting for.
The delay isn't a bad thing as long as we get a better deal out of it.
Anybody who says 'just leave with no deal and see what happens' has no idea what the consequences might be.
Good points! A lot that I agree with. I am a casual remainer but respect the result of the referendum and think that it should be done properly.
Have a look at Change UK (not change.org) and they seem quite positive at the moment. They are not getting a lot of recognition at the moment as they are still in the process of being registered but they could be the common ground that our country needs right now
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Jay-Owen
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 Posted - 2019/08/27 : 00:51:30
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
Of course who loves Corbyn? That's right, the BBC! They really want Labour elected don't they?
What world do you live in?
- https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/08/bbc-biased-against-jeremy-corbyn-look-evidence
- https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/nick-robinson-tackles-anti-corbyn-bias-at-the-bbc/
- https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/26/jeremy-corbyn-media-coverage_n_8653886.html?guccounter=1
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Jay-Owen
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 00:57:59
Don't get me wrong: if you don't like Corbyn, fair enough. To each their own. I won't hide that I'm a lifelong Labour supporter, and although I don't agree with Corbyn on everything, I still believe he's the best current option for PM.
But to claim that the BBC (or indeed any major media group other than the Guardian and the Independent) are pro-Corbyn is simply demonstrably not true. The BBC are decidedly centrist and pro-establishment, which at the moment makes them closer to BoJo than Corbyn (although they were very pro-Blair and pro-Blairism in the day). I mean, Panorama did a whole episode on Labour's antisemitism problem recently - they have never covered the Tories' rampant islamophobia with the same vigour.
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 12:00:44
Jews: "We can't vote Labour/Corbin because he's said something anti-semitist or a supporter of BDS."
Britain falls out the EU and has a worse crisis than Venezuela
Jews: 
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 18:17:01
I now support Brexit and have no problems leaving without a deal
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 18:29:38
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 18:41:25
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....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/08/27 : 19:27:28
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Originally posted by Smoogie:
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Originally posted by djDMS:
....Which doesn't surprise me in the least.
You are not one of those 'remoaners' are you?
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 08:56:54
Oh **** off
You're not governed by anyone outside the UK, or by laws created by everyone else. The people YOU voted for either voted for or voted against implementing certain rules in all of the EU. If the majority voted for something, then the ones who voted aginst it have to live with it, or create rules that makes it harder to actually work. That's how unions work, and it's understandable why Scotland wants to leave the UK (because you are the EU in that context).
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 20:25:53
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Originally posted by Samination:
Britain falls out the EU and has a worse crisis than Venezuela
Lay off the drugs!
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 20:27:48
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
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Posted - 2019/08/28 : 20:40:12
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they have never covered the Tories' rampant islamophobia with the same vigour.
Oh give over! Islam is an ideology, and by all accounts a barbaric ideology. No ideas or faith should be above critique in a free society. Islam is not a race either, which is what a lot of people forget when throwing around the racist slur.
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/08/29 : 08:13:40
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
quote:
Originally posted by LeVzi:
You must be thick as fk if you believe that, and did I read you live in Sweden ? What a lovely country that was until the EU got hold of it.
Feel safe on the streets much ?
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
Sweden isn't more rapie than the UK. We just have a much lower bar when it comes to what gets classified as rape. Which is probably why the "Metoo" movement wasn't as big in Sweden, as we're already Politically Correct as you can get... for the worse.
Levzi: At least one of those "refugee's" got to wreck ASAP Rocky... if it wasn't for his body guards standing in the way
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Smoogie
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Posted - 2019/08/29 : 08:20:31
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Originally posted by djDMS:
Well, I'm not moaning about it but yes i voted remain.
Go on, tell me how wrong I am....
You are no more right or wrong than anyone else who voted leave or remain. Brexit has never been done before so there is no right or wrong answer. There are many different opinions but no one can be right yet.
Even in ten years time we will be arguing over weather it was right or wrong to leave
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Posted - 2019/08/29 : 08:27:42
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Isn't it the rape capital of Europe now? I know cars get bombed quite regular. The MSM never cover it though.
You won't hear about it on the BBC. They keep stuff about that from the UK quiet as well.
The BBC are known for their pro EU bias and are awfully left/ liberal. They hate Johnson but tolerate Corbyn although it is Blair who they truly loved.
As for Sweden the BBC are obsessed with Greta Thunberg. A nice enough girl but the media practically stalk her. I find it a bit creepy.
Now I will say that I am against racism and condemn it but the BBC are also obsessed with BAME representation so much so that a lot of people from BAME communities find it patronizing. LGBT favoritism itself is strong in the BBC. Again there should be nothing wrong with that but the BBC over represent. If you are white, straight, Conservative and perhaps on the leave side of the fence then you are one of the bad guys in their eyes.
The BBC are one of the major culprits in the Brexit divide in this country. Have their ever really given a balanced view on Brexit allowing any airtime to anyone who sees benefits for leaving?
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